let's pass a law that will change the course of the future when we don't enforce the laws that we have on the books, the most important laws? >> again, this hearing taking place by a by partisan task force as it tries to come up with legislation for lawmakers. they are are asking limiting large magazines from 10 rounds to 30. a lot of folks in the audience from newtown. you can imagine, wolf, why there is emotion on both sides of the issue. >> i know you had a chance to speak with representatives from the gun industry. what did they say? >> one in particular, joe bartozi, a gun manufacturer, he was in the audience for part of the hearing. did he feel like his point got across and he actually supports improving background checks but, once again, he feels as though increasing the legislation may not exactly be what is in order here. he did say that he understands why so many people feel so passionate on both sides of the issue. >> jason carroll, thanks very much for that report. >>> the death toll is climbing in the devastating brazil fire. lisa sylvester is monitoring that. lisa, what's